“Protocol BS at its best, so because a 1%er club don’t like you, You can’t be apart of COC?” Basically what this video was saying. And being propagated by someone who admits not being apart of any motorcycle club. All those damn experts on clubs out there now a days, I swear, an incident happens and everyone wants to let their holes run.
It will be coming up on three years this May, an incident we all know well “Twin Peaks” happened in Waco Texas. This incident showed all of us in the biker community just how underhanded and devious law enforcement could really be. But Waco wasn’t just about law enforcement and how they arrested over 177 bikers, most of whom had nothing to do with anything but to attend a local Confederation of Clubs meeting. It was about a club going to that meeting in order to work out issues with another club, something that the Confederation was meant to do. But it is apparent, as stated by a member of the Dominant club later in this article, if you’re a club the dominants don’t like, you have no business being at a COC meeting.
For those who do not know, the Confederation of Clubs was an attempt, early on in its formation at least, to bring motorcycle clubs together, to work out problems and stand as one against the true enemy “The Feds”. But like all things over time, they lose their purpose and branch out with other ideas. I believe it is the loss of its original purpose that led to the “Twin Peaks Incident” most of all. Again, the Confederation of Clubs was supposed to be about clubs working out issues, not 1%er clubs running around controlling clubs and making money off them.
Over the years many in the media and the biker community have labeled the Cossacks as the aggressors in the incident. It is almost three years since the incident and the ongoing trials, Insane Throttle wanted to get the Cossacks M/C side of the events. One thing that I noticed in the media, independent blogs, and so-called news sites, they never truly let the Cossacks tell their side of the story. If you do not have both sides, how are you going to make up your mind on the event in Twin Peaks?
Insane Throttle submitted the following questions to the Cossacks M/C. The answers to those questions are in their entirety straight from the Cossacks M/C without editing or censorship, something that I advise all biker news sites to do if they wish to conduct a serious piece. Here is that interview
Insane Throttle: With all the propaganda that has been put out on the internet and in the press against your club. We would like to give the Cossacks the opportunity to address that type of press and set the record straight. Our first question is – What year did your club form and what was the idea behind the Cossacks?
Cossacks M/C *Well first off, you have to keep in mind that there are more than one Cossacks MC, there are at least 4 different Cossacks MC’s in the USA. Also, there are at least 3 in Russia and at least 2 in Europe. All different organizations. There are 2 Cossacks MC’s in Texas, We are the 1% Cossacks, and the other we will refer to as the ugly man Cossacks.
(The ugly man is the name of their center patch) Our Club’s original members (1% Cossacks), as well as many who were not original members but are members now, were all members of the ugly man Cossacks, some for many years. We are proud of where we came from, however, we are not proud of the leadership of the ugly man Cossacks and their position after Twin Peaks. To put it simply, their top leadership position has not changed in over 25 years, and some habits are hard to break, such as brother fucking those who have laid it on the line for your club.
The ugly man Cossacks had a lot of members, but like many clubs who get big in numbers, there is a divide, where you have more than one type of member, more than one vision. A group of men who live the club, and a group of men who live off the coat tail of the first group. We were the men who lived the club. And after Twin Peaks, the divide became very clear. And so, December 2017 a group of men, 5 chapters of ugly men Cossacks along with others in support clubs pulled away and established the 1% Cossacks MC. The idea is simply this, We earned the Diamond we wear. It is because of who we are as a club and as individuals that we represent the sacred 1%er Diamond. We learned from the mistakes of the past, and what we have is a Brotherhood of like-minded members who are all on the same page in every aspect.
As for the propaganda on the internet….. we think it’s pathetic and weak that independent bloggers (such as the Aging Rebel), sit behind their keyboards and lie in every single article they write. They try to assassinate the character of men they know nothing about. This blog writer, in particular, has said that the Cossacks were working with every law enforcement agency and has called out many individual members by name with claims of being a CI or undercover, or so many other absolute lies.
Yet after almost 3 years none of these ridiculous claims have been proven. Shit like that is public record. And if this clown on Aging Rebel or any other liar on the web was talking facts, he would not simply say these things, he would show proof of these claims! He can’t, or he would. (And for the record, many clubs have been infiltrated over the years, no club is immune to it. But how can any club who was tricked by LE point the finger at any other club who may have gotten tricked into believing a member was a brother rather than a rat?
We are all victims in that regard if and when it happens. No club chooses to be infiltrated or deceived.) Therefore, he relies on the fact that there are people like his “regulars” who will not only believe the garbage but will actively comment about things they know absolutely nothing about. You know, there is a big difference when you slander people from behind your keyboard at home, and when you are face to face discussing the same subject. We also think that the clubs who have resorted to using these fake news sites to slander their “enemies”, or the people they can not control, are part of the problem we face as an MC community.
Insane Throttle: Insane Throttle has talked extensively regarding some of the issues that are facing the motorcycle club community. From the Cossacks point of view, what problems do you identify going wrong right now in the motorcycle club scene?
Cossacks M/C *We think the biggest problem is that the MC community refuses to stop giving the Federal Government and LE ammunition to use against all of us. Adjustments in the way things operate, especially in terms of MC’s relations with one another must change with the times in order for the MC community as a whole to still exist in years to come.
Insane Throttle: Insane Throttle has suggested that many independent clubs not associated with the National Confederation of Clubs should form their own separate type of an association. One’s who focus would truly be on bringing clubs together to stem off any problems before they begin. The concept of such an association would be for the member clubs to communicate between each other to work out any problems they might have at the table, instead of clubs having to deal with the problems on the street. This idea was the originally intended purpose of NCOM but as most know, hasn’t panned out. What would the Cossacks suggest for how such an organization can come about?
Cossacks M/C *It would take a lot of big egos to be set aside to start with. And it would also have to genuinely be an assembly of Clubs and men who care and are serious about the future of Motorcycle Clubs individually and a whole. For some, there are deeply rooted rivalries that, unless set aside, they would never be able to sit at the same table with certain other clubs. So, setting aside egos and rivalries would be where we start. Recognizing that we are not each others enemy and realizing who all of our enemies really is.
Insane Throttle: Can you tell our readers about your center patch. The symbolism behind it and how the design was chosen?
Cossacks M/C *As stated on our website: The skull represents the old… face and skin removed and skull exposed. With two scimitars splitting and dividing the strong from the weak. The 7 Cossack Heroes are represented by the 7 chain links. So that we may never forget and their sacrifice will never be cheapened or in vain.
There is obviously symbolism in our center patch……
Insane Throttle: May 17th, 2015 An Incident that became known as “Twin Peaks” Can you tell our readership how the Cossacks view the situation? What leads up to the incident? And especially if the rumors are true, the police that were involved that day, instigated the incident.
Cossacks M/C *Unlike some in other clubs, we will not use this or any other forum (nor the witness stand) to speak names or details against others. We will say this, the Cossacks went to Twin Peaks for discussions. In the cell phone discovery, what you will find is many text messages stating for all Cossacks to be professional, shake hands, and Not to carry weapons unless they can legally be carried. This can also be found in many statements by Black and Gold. There is overwhelming evidence of this because it is the truth. It is because of the evidence and the truth that the DA’s office took the position in the first trial that the Cossacks were not there to ambush anyone, not because the Cossacks had some relationship with LE but because it is the truth.
How many Cossacks took the stand in that first trial? Zero. How many other people took the stand stating names and blame on Cossacks and individual members of the Cossacks? So much for that old rule, huh?
As for the police involvement, they were there and according to their own records they were there for many reasons. Only they know the truth of what they were doing and/or trying to do. The Cossacks certainly did not and still do not know why LE was there and did what they did before, during, or after. LE killed 4 Cossacks that day. They killed 0 of any other group there. It could easily be said that they were friends with the other groups there based on that alone…
Insane Throttle: First off, Insane Throttle sends it’s deepest sympathies not only to your club, but also the family of the 7 members who lost their lives that day. Being a former patch holder myself, the funerals were always the toughest things to go through for me. How is the club holding up over the past couple years since losing those members who lost their lives that day? More importantly, how is the family, wives, children of the brothers lost holding up? Does the club ensure that they are cared for when something is needed?
Cossacks M/C *For most of the families, especially the mothers, children, and wives, it is still very devastating. For most, in their minds, it is still May 17, 2015. Many still go to counseling. Many are on medication. And with the injustice taking place legally in Mclennan County, coming up on 3 years now with nothing resolved it is still taking a toll on the families as well as the members still on bond with their lives on hold. We are there for the families. Some want and accept our help, some do not. But we will always be there for the families of those lost.
Insane Throttle: Those in the media, these suppose Law-Abiding Clubs, paint club members as criminals and non-law abiding which cannot be further from the truth. Insane Throttle believes it very important to dispel that myth. We know within the club scene most members are hard working blue collar workers. Can you tell our readers what kind of professions or jobs that were held by those 7 members who lost their lives that day?
Cossacks M/C *Diesel mechanics, Offshore oil field, Fabricator, Repo Driver, to name a few. All had jobs, one owned his own business and put brothers to work.
Insane Throttle: What is the Cossack’s viewpoint on the charade that is now going on with the Waco Trials? The DA whom many reports suggest is also under investigation for wrongdoing, what importance do you think needs to be put out there on how the police and DA handled this whole situation? And finally, with the 1st trial ending in a mistrial. Do the Cossacks believe that the DA will fail in its efforts to pursue any additional convictions?
Cossacks M/C *The DA in McLennan County is finally now being exposed for his personal and political ambitious decisions against, and at the expense of many innocent men who are bikers. He has now lost all credibility with his own people in the courthouse, the police department, judges, and the people in the community who will be the juries he is trying to convince! He will never find a jury who will unanimously believe him and the story he is spinning because he is not trusted. He has put the citizens who voted him into office and the city they live in, in debt! It’s doubtful he will be reelected.
But the biggest injustice is the lives that have been put on hold because of him, the jobs lost, the children lost, the imposed restrictions that keep so many from living their lives, the financial burden he has put on innocent men! That is the real injustice! So many families are feeling the effects of his personal and ambitious decisions! And it is sad that the powers that be, His Bosses, have allowed this to continue for almost 3 years now!
Insane Throttle: Last night 1-23-18 we released an episode of Motorcycle Madhouse titled Protocol & Biker News Sites. In there I discussed the importance of how Biker News Sites need to stay down the middle when it comes to writing about motorcycle clubs. The writer of the article regardless of the support of one club or another must keep to the facts and not let their bias show. What do you believe the implications are when such a site does not present the facts of an incident but instead presents untrue facts to push an agenda?
Cossacks M/C *You end up with sights like the aging rebel and radio legendary who stir the pot with misinformation. Causing yet more friction between MC’s with the blatant lies and attacks. And for the readers who know nothing about the MC world, they take a lot of the lies and propaganda as fact. Because everything on the internet is true, right?! Ha Ha. For those in the MC community, most can distinguish between the truth and the character assassination campaigns. But some are behind it, hell some of these bloggers are on the payroll to spread the lies and propaganda. Sad that any MC would resort to such tactics, especially for those who claim to be traditional and old school/rule oriented.
Insane Throttle: Protocol always seems to be the talk of the internet, especially by some sites and keyboard commandos who don’t know what the hell they are talking about. Do you believe the protocol is still valid in today’s club scene?
Cossacks M/C *Not on the scale it used to be. There are still those who cling to protocol, but unfortunately, there are many who only expect protocol from others but do not themselves follow it. It’s a new age in the MC world with a new generation of men, some of which either were not schooled, or they were and simply do not think it applies to them. A protocol should not just be valid but valued in our world.
Insane Throttle: To expand a little more on the above question. Today many people who felt that their old club was no longer for them. They decided to leave the club and get together with some other brothers to form an M/C that they could mold into a vision that they all shared. What is the Cossacks viewpoint on new clubs starting up on their own, wanting to stay Independent and out of the fray? There are websites that will call these clubs illegitimate or better yet- Pop-Up Clubs because they didn’t follow a protocol. How do the Cossacks look at such clubs? Especially if they were formed by ex-members who at one time or another put in prospect time for another club?
Cossacks M/C *You can take a biker out of a club, but you can’t take the biker and club spirit out of a man. Men join clubs for reasons within them personally as well as being like-minded with the type of club they join. It is our opinion that sometimes, a man does not know if a club is really for him until he finds it. For some, they find it right off. For others, it takes a little longer. For some, the club changes and is not for them any longer. For some, they get brother fucked by their club, for others they might see the grass is actually greener on the other side. But no matter, unless it is an unhonorable reason that a person is out of a club, and the circumstances are as you mentioned in the question, it is not a pop-up club if men have put in years with the MC community. They did not just pop up, they have been around for years. Those that say otherwise are simply pushing their own agenda or are just clueless about what is really going on.
Insane Throttle: We would love to have an officer of the club on “Motorcycle Madhouse” to further tell the Cossack Story. Would the Cossacks be willing to have an Officer on the show?
Cossacks M/C *It is a possibility that we will discuss more.
Insane Throttle: Last but very important question. We always leave the best for last. Eagles or Patriots and by how much?
Cossacks M/C *Damn…. Eagles by 6. Gotta go with the underdogs…..
In the end, 9 people were killed (Source: Wikipedia)
Daniel Raymond “Diesel” Boyett, 44, Cossack
Wayne Lee “Sidetrack” Campbell, 43, Cossack
Richard Matthew “Chain” Jordan, III, 31, Cossack,
Richard Vincent “Bear” Kirschner, Jr., 47, Cossack,
Jacob Lee Rhyne, 39, Cossack.
Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65, unaffiliated
Charles Wayne “Dog” Russell, 46, Cossack
Manuel Issac Rodriguez, 40, Bandido
Matthew Mark Smith, 27, Scimitar,
According to Carrizal :”I know you are blaming us for this event, but I don’t blame us,” Carrizal testified.”I don’t blame the cops for it. (I blame) the club that surrounded us that day, that had no business being there.”
According to a Bandidos leader himself, in open court and on the stand. He said the Cossacks had no business being at that COC meeting. A logical person can only take from that “The Confederation of Clubs is no longer a place for clubs to solve problems, it is a vehicle being used by dominant clubs to control the smaller clubs”. It seems that the originally stated purpose of the COC is no more. It also exposes the larger issue with what is happening in the M/C culture, why many members are leaving dominant clubs, forming their own, joining other clubs, many whom would never think a 1%er would join.
The importance of both sides of the story is one that had to be told. I did a story on “Biker News Sites” yesterday morning. I discussed how news sites, bloggers, and even the media could have an effect on actions that happen on the streets. If you cannot cover both sides down the middle, without regards to which parties are involved, supporter or non-supporter, you shouldn’t be out there writing about it. For those that comment on those types of articles , having no skin in the game. There is real-life people who put in the blood, sweat, and tears into their clubs while you sit there pounding on a keyboard with no patch, no experience in the situation. My suggestion. “Shut the Fuck Up”. Go out there, hang out with a club, prospect and put the work in that’s needed, after you do that, then bitch and moan. Until then you’re just some wannabee out there running off at the mouth.
It is time to stop with the “My dick is bigger than your’s crap”. If clubs don’t work out all their crap between each other, peace will never be. Meantime, don’t bitch when you see new clubs coming into the motorcycle scene. A person does not join a motorcycle club to be ordered around, told they cannot do this or that. People join because they want to enjoy the open road and party with their brothers. Until clubs get it together, associations like the “Alliance of Law Abiding Clubs” will grow in popularity. Clubs will have no one but themselves to blame for it. Crap, the dominant 1%er clubs have become the “Feds” in the motorcycle club world. Always there to watch over you and try to make up the rules without they themselves following any of them.
We would like to wish the families, the brothers of “All of those killed in this tragic incident” our deepest of sorrows and sympathies as the three year anniversary approaches. Hopefully, this article will go a little way in helping people understand the importance of getting both sides, and more importantly the need for all clubs to come together to the table and work shit out.
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