The Iron Order civil case involved a death of a woman that was thrown into the street by a member of Iron Order during an altercation. There were no criminal charges filed against this member. I wasn’t there, you internet warriors were not there. Go on the conspiracy rants on why he wasn’t charged on your time. Also, we are not defending the guy, those are the FACTS of the case. The girl’s parents are now suing the Iron Order M/C for the actions of that member. What this case is about now, the question that is at the forefront of everything,“Is the Iron Order Motorcycle Club responsible for one of its member’s actions?”
My argument is NO! Because if they are, then a whole lot of clubs are in legal jeopardy financially if the court or a jury decides that in this case.
I wrote a couple articles on this subject, but most people couldn’t get past the hatred for Iron Order in order to understand what the case was about, it blurred their reasoning abilities I guess, let’s throw out there another potential case that could materialize from what is happening to Iron Order. A potential civil case in the making, one that could be used against the Mongols M/C. Like I’ve been saying in other articles, cases like the Iron Orders could be used against any club once that kind of precedent is set. The people in this article are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Slaying in Bumpus Mills
Stephanie Bradley, 31, of Woodlawn.
According to the federal indictment, Frazier and Mongols member Jacob Ort, who is now deceased, interrogated the woman and another victim regarding stolen narcotics, firearms and money. The next day, Frazier, Santiago, Aldridge, Forrester, and Ort kidnapped the two, took the woman’s Dodge Durango by force and took her to a cemetery in Bumpus Mills.
Frazier, Aldridge, and Ort then killed her in a wooded area behind the cemetery by shooting her at least eight times, including once in the head and multiple times in the arm, according to the federal indictment.
The legal question now becomes, is the Mongols MC as a whole, responsible for the actions by those who were members in their M/C? Very, Very, similar cases. Almost identical. Each involved women, both involve the death of women by a member of a motorcycle club. Criminal charges have not been determined yet in the Mongols case, but civilly, can the Mongols, like the Iron Order, be held responsible? That’s what is at stake in the Iron Order trial for all clubs.
The problem with keyboard warriors is this. I’ve had many conversations with 1%ers the last few days, keyboard warriors are people who have no skin in the game, no knowledge of what the actual facts of something are. When they are given the facts, they are busy looking over them because the club involved, missing the whole point of the argument being giving.”Internet warriors live off the backs of 1%ers, we cannot stand Iron Order, but if this kind of thing is being used against them, you can bet your ass they will try it against us”. An exact quote from a 1%er member from a very large M/C that has been around since the beginning of the 60’S.
Internet Warriors, your making asses out of yourselves. Not one of you are helping the 1%ers, you’re actually hurting shit, giving these feds a reason to mess with them. Just like the Iron Order case, you have no idea what the hell you’re cheering for. If you cannot see what could happen, blinded by hate for Iron Order, you do not see the big picture for all clubs you claim to support.
In the below article by a local newspaper. It defines the Mongols as an Outlaw Motorcycle Gang. We actually provided the definitions of a gang and one for a motorcycle club below.
Wiki Definition of M/C-
The abbreviations MC and MCC are both used to mean “motorcycle club” but have a special social meaning from the point of view of the outlaw or one percenter motorcycling subculture. MC is generally reserved for those clubs that are mutually recognized by other MC or outlaw motorcycle clubs.
Federal definition. The federal definition of a gang as used by the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is :
An association of three or more individuals; Whose members collectively identify themselves by adopting a group identity, which they use to create an atmosphere of fear or intimidation, frequently by employing one or more of the following: a common name, slogan, identifying sign, symbol, tattoo or other physical marking, style or color of clothing, hairstyle, hand sign or graffiti;
Whose purpose in part is to engage in criminal activity and which uses violence or intimidation to further its criminal objectives.
Whose members engage in criminal activity or acts of juvenile delinquency that if committed by an adult would be crimes with the intent to enhance or preserve the association’s power, reputation or economic resources.
The association may also possess some of the following characteristics:
The members may employ rules for joining and operating within the association.
The members may meet on a recurring basis.
The association may provide physical protection of its members from others.
The association may seek to exercise control over a particular geographic location or region, or it may simply defend its perceived interests against rivals.
The association may have an identifiable structure.
Two very close definitions. This is exactly how the feds go after motorcycle clubs. This is how they are able to sell it to the public, and the public is buying it. Admittedly the clubs are not helping themselves out much with these types of indictments. But that does not mean that a club as a whole should be held responsible for members who go out there and commit crimes. Shit, if that was the case, the fucking Feds themselves should be charged with RICO with all the under the table shit they did with this Trump crap. Or the cops involved in WACO should be charged and held responsible for that debacle down there.
It is fine to have an opinion on one club or another. But if that opinion is so strong against a club that it clouds your judgment on issues that affect clubs as a whole community, then maybe you should sit back and just shut the hell up. Like the 1%er, I was talking to said. “You have no skin in the game”. For one, it’s not you wearing a 1%er diamond from a club that this kind of case can target, it’s not you that will have to pay the additional dues for the club to hire an attorney to fight this kind of shit, finally, it’s not you who wears the patch of the bigger 1%er clubs where Feds have more pictures of you then you might have of yourself.
I write to bring issues to the forefront that affect the motorcycle community as a whole. This does not mean that I’m always right, this does not mean that I claim to be some sort of expert. I believe in putting out as much information as possible in order for the readership to come to their own conclusions. This is the whole premise behind Insane Throttle Biker News, Insane Throttle Productions. Point being, you can either like what is put out there, or you can hate it and write in and tell us why you hate it, better yet, you hate it so much then go to another site.
You will find this on Insane Throttle. A down the middle approach, both sides of an issue will have the opportunity to tell their side of the story, you take that information and decide for yourself. Plain and simple. People asked why we closed down comments on Youtube for some videos? Youtube has community channel guidelines, the comments coming in contained words that were against those guidelines and would have got the video removed. This might of been the intention, or maybe we just pissed people off with the material. In any case, you have a bitch, then email us the bitch. Don’t be some child who pounds on the keyboard.
But to return to the subject at hand. Do I believe if a civil case was brought against the Mongols M/C, the Mongols should be held responsible? No, I do not believe that. How can you hold an entire organization responsible for the action of a few? To claim “Well they were members of the M/C, wearing the colors of an M/C , so yes they are responsible” is ludicrous. The Mongols M/C is a large organization, they specifically state that the Mongols M/C as a whole do not condone illegal activities. Any large organization be M/C’s, fraternities, whatever the large organization, cannot be expected to keep tabs on every single member it has.
Motorcycle Clubs are not the Boy Scout Clubs of America. Everyone that has been in the biker community can tell you that. But that doesn’t mean that the club as a whole is criminal, or that club should be held responsible for one members actions . No matter your viewpoint on a club, for or against, when cases are brought against a motorcycle club as a whole, this becomes a clear and present danger for all clubs, no matter your like or dislike for the club involved.
How an outlaw motorcycle gang took root in Clarksville
They go by nicknames like Slo-mo, Goon, Fester, Lurch and Smurf.
But the members of what police call an outlaw biker gang in Clarksville are no joke, committing robbery and extortion, distributing meth and doing whatever it takes to get away with their crimes — including murder — according to the Department of Justice.
Many of their illegal activities have been committed in Clarksville, where the California-based Mongols Motorcycle Club sponsored its first local chapter in Tennessee in 2015, according to 54-count indictment handed down earlier this month.
Twelve members of the Clarksville Mongols and three other men working with them were charged in the indictment.
Who are the Mongols?
The Mongols is a motorcycle club founded in California in 1969. It is an international organization with chapters across the United States and several foreign countries. They live by the motto, “Respect Few, Fear None,” according to the group’s website.
The national club did not respond Tuesday to a request for comment.
Based on a multi-year investigation, this month’s federal indictment lays out a history of the club and how it began in Clarksville, according to prosecutors .
A group of men from Montgomery County started a Mongols Motorcycle Club in Clarksville in 2015, and after a probationary period, they became full-fledged members in 2017, working closely with a club in California to sell huge quantities of meth in Tennessee and Kentucky, the indictment states.
They wear leather vests with the image of a Mongol rider and the name of the member’s regional chapter. Many also wear a “1%” patch.
Associates hoping to become Mongols members are called “prospects” and may wear “soft colors” of black and white shirts that read “Support Your Local Mongols,” the indictment states. All prospective members and their wives or girlfriends must provide information for a background check. The women are allowed to wear jackets that say “Property of,” and names their partner.
The latest indictments are not the first for the Mongols, which has had members accused of crimes for years, but, “The club is staying strong and will continue to fight for the biker community an every patch holder’s civil liberties,” according to its website.
The club even has a constitution and bylaws, which includes rules, a code of conduct and penalties. There is a governing body, including a sergeant-at-arms who maintains firearms for the chapter.
While they may see themselves as a brotherhood who “ride iron horses” and named their club after Genghis Khan of the Mongol Empire, authorities call them criminals, willing to beat and kill to defend their enterprise.